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Third wave feminism just an attempt to feminize men (under the cover of 'deconstructing gender stereotypes')?
Lol this 3rd wwwave feminst website, seems to agree.

“Real men read books and like foreign movies better than Hollywood ones.
Real men stroke me lightly all up and down my body, tickle my feet, and massage my back, without assuming it's foreplay.
Real men love exotic food, and aren't afraid to try new dishes.
Real men aren't afraid to touch other men, and are comfortable around gay men even if they're straight.
Real men like to watch me play sports. (And maybe even play with me on a coed team).
Real men like colored underwear.
Real men practice at least one kind of expressive art (music, painting, writing, etc). Working on cars does not count.
Real men like getting flowers as much as giving them.
Real men like to play, and know that it has nothing to do with foreplay and everything to do with being young at heart.
A real man likes to lean against a tree and watch the sunset fade.
Real men like furry and cuddly baby animals as much as women do.
A real man knows how to train an animal with patience and a calm attitude, rather than by force of will.
Real men throw away the can that they opened and ate from, instead of leaving it on the kitchen counter.
Real men clean bathrooms. Including scrubbing the toilet. And the bathtub.
Real men clean up after the pet that just hacked all over the carpet, instead of waiting 12 hours for the woman to come home from work and clean it up.
Real men buy thier wives seasons tickets to plays and theatres instead of sporting events.
Real men remember anniversaries and birthdays and other sentimental events.
Real men listen.
Real men kneel to me gracefully.
Real men clean the kitchen.
Real men eat quiche.
Real men change diapers.
Real men wear latex boots and perfume and NOTHING ELSE, and grow their hair down to their kneecaps.
Real men get me white wine and ice cream whenever I ask, and think nothing of driving 125 miles to a Japanese restaurant to pick me up some sushi when I feel like it.
Real men do not leave the seat up.
Real men give me footrubs and backrubs.
Real men respond to all demands with, "Yes, Milady."
Real men do laundry. My laundry.
Real men get my car tuned up when I'm too lazy to pry my *** out of bed and drop it off. They also feed my cats and clean the catbox.
Real men cook. REAL real men also wash the dishes.
Real men read Shakespeare aloud to thier lovers.
Real men read.
Real men actually like going to musicals and the ballet and aren't just humoring thier wives.
Real men cry at sad movies.
Real men kill the ants and then ******* clean them up plus removing what attracted them in the first place.
Real men buy sexy underwear for themselves. (And model it proudly for me.)
Real men have no fear of pink.
Real men don't shrivel when someone calls them gay.
Real men use their fingers and tongues, not just their penises, to give pleasure in sex.
...Real men are people, not wind-up dolls.”

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What do you think?

Who the hell are women to decide how my gender should be??
"Real men read books and like foreign movies better than Hollywood ones"
I love foreign movies AND hollywood, since I'm not from The U.S.. that statement about hollywood and foreign movies proved that those people only care about the U.S.. didn't one of 3rd wave feminism's goal was to move feminism offshores?
"Real men kneel to me gracefully"... but wait, wasn't feminism about equality, not supremacism?
"Real men read Shakespeare aloud to thier lovers" WHO says i have to have a lover?!
"Real men get my car tuned up when I'm too lazy to pry my *** out of bed and drop it off. They also feed my cats and clean the catbox. " HELL no.

What do i do about my almost cheating wife?
for the last 2 years my wife and i have been roleplaying about her ******* other men. the deal was i would be ok if everyhting was open and it wasnt anyone she or i knew. i recently discovered that she has been texting and flirting with one of her male clients. she even invited him to coffee where she told him all the things she doesnt like about me. she admits she wanted to do him but he was holding back because shes married. she called him this morning and cut it off, and i called him later to confront him. i was cool about it, as was he, and he said he would disappear. what do i do now?

kick her out of your house i mean come on man she was being so stupid and disrespectful about your marriage.i say you should get a divorce she does not deserve you.

Whats wrong with him...!? husbands answer.. wives too but more men please!?
I have been seeing this guy off and on the first time we met eachother we hanged out at his place and i drank a bit and got alittle drunk and we made out and had sex, after that we barely talked 3 months later we talked again because I Called Him.. and then we just kept texting and emailing and stuff and then we met again and this time we met with friends i braught a girl and he braught a guy and we just chilled nothing more nothing less we watched tv and had laughs and stuff and i went into his bathroom and I used the phone because my X called me and i was in his washroom for like 30 minutes and he was kind of upset because he new it was a guy and then after that he left me and my girlfirend and his friend and he was gone for like 30 minutes and then came back and we went on his balcony to chat and I told him I'm really into him and i think that we should take eachother seriously and stop ******* around and he felt the same way but he has trust issues for some reason hes amazing looking has an amazing body he pretty much has it all hes 24 I'm 20 years old turning 21 he knows I have a son and like we left the house to go and get some fast food and then after went back to his place got my friend and we left to go home and he said he would take me out to dinner the next day. The next day came and he didnt take me Anywhere not even a call but this isnt anything new he has been telling me that we are going to meet and never do and never get a call back or anything and then he calls me 2 days later and hes like oh what are you doing im like i dont want to hear it anymore and i was like i herd it all your playing games with me again and its like he likes me but hes just confused so after that we barely talked AGAIN only just by like email maybe and then so he called me TODAY and he was like how are you doing and i was like wow im good i havent spoken to you in so long and hes like i know so we have a dinner date on Friday and he seemed really sincere about it (just like the other times) and I dont want him to mess with me again this time i feel reallly sensitive towards him and i think if he does it this time I will really say forget it I mean why does he call me and stuff? do you think he really is into me or just confused do you think we will make it to that date on friday or will I just be another lost.. its been months now and its like hes of age not to play games do you think hes actually seeing that I am serious and not wanting him for his money or him or anything because he has been hurt in the past and thats why he holds back he even told me and i really felt bad because hes a gorgeous guy please tell me exactly what do you think!?

Me 3, too long.

Advice to Young Men from an Old Man ? what would you take?
1. Don’t pick on the weak. It’s immoral. Don’t antagonize the strong without cause, its stupid.

2. Don’t hate women. It’s a waste of time

3. Invest in yourself. Material things come to those that have self actualized.

4. Get in a fistfight, even if you are going to lose.

5. As a former Marine, take it from me. Don’t join the military, unless you want to risk getting your balls blown off to secure other people’s economic or political interests.

6. If something has a direct benefit to an individual or a class of people, and a theoretical, abstract, or amorphous benefit to everybody else, realize that the proponent’s intentions are to benefit the former, not the latter, no matter what bullshit they try to feed you.

7. Don’t be a Republican. They are self-dealing crooks with no sense of honor or patriotism to their fellow citizens. If you must be a Republican, don’t be a “conservative.” They are whining, bitching, complaining, simple-minded self-righteous idiots who think they’re perpetual victims. Listen to talk radio for a while, you’ll see what I mean.

8. Don’t take proffered advice without a critical analysis. 90% of all advice is intended to benefit the proponent, not the recipient. Actually, the number is probably closer to 97%, but I don’t want to come off as cynical.

9. You’ll spend your entire life listening to people tell you how much you owe them. You don’t owe the vast majority of people ****.

10. Don’t undermine your fellow young men. Mentor the young men that come after you. Society recognizes that you have the potential to be the most power force in society. It scares them. Society does not find young men sympathetic. They are afraid of you, both individually and collectively. Law enforcement’s primary purpose is to suppress you.

11. As a young man, you’re on your own. Society divides and conquers. Unlike women who have advocates looking out for them (NOW, Women’s Study Departments, government, non-profit organizations, political advocacy groups) almost no one is looking out for you.

12. Young men provide the genius and muscle by which our society thrives. Look at the Silicone Valley. By in large, it was not old men or women that created the revolution we live. Realize that society steals your contributions, secures it with our intellectual property laws, and then takes credit and the rewards where none is due.

13. Know that few people have your best interests at heart. Your mother does. Your father probably does (if he stuck around). Your siblings are on your side. Everybody else worries about themselves.

14. Don’t be afraid to tell people to “**** off” when need be. It is an important skill to acquire. As they say, speak your piece, even if your voice shakes.

15. Acquire empathy, good interpersonal skills, and confidence. Learn to read body language and non-verbal communication. Don’t just concentrate on your vocational or technical skills, or you’ll find your wife ******* somebody else.

16. Keep fit.

17. Don’t speak ill of your wife/girlfriend. Back her up against the world, even if she’s wrong. She should know that you have her back. When she needs your help, give it. She should know that you’ll take her part.

18. Don’t cheat on your wife/girlfriend. If you must cheat, don’t humiliate her. Don’t risk having your transgressions come back to her or her friends. Don’t do it where you live. Don’t do it with people in your social circle. Don’t **** in your own back yard.

19. If your girlfriend doesn’t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That’s what girlfriends are for.

20. Don’t bother with “emotional affairs.” They are just a vehicle for women to flirt and have someone make them feel good about themselves. That’s the part of a relationship they want. For you it is a lot of work and investment in time. If they are having an emotional affair with you, they’re probably ******* someone else.

21. Becoming a woman’s friend and confidant is not going to get you into an intimate relationship. If you haven’t gotten the girl within a reasonably short period of time, chances are you won’t ever get her. She’ll end up confiding to you about the sexual adventures she’s having with someone else.

22. Have and nurture friendships with women.

23. Realize that love is a numbers game. Guys fall in love easily. You’re going to see some girl and feel like you’ll die if you don’t get her. If she rejects you, move on to the next one. It’s her loss.

24. Don’t be an internet troll. Got out and live life. There is not a cadre of beautiful women advertising on Craigslist to have NSA sex with you. Beautiful women don’t need to advertise. The websites that advertise with attractive women’s photos and claims of loneliness are baloney. All they want is your money and your personal information so that they can market to you. The posts on Craigslist by young “women” seeking NSA sex, and asking for a picture are just a bunch of gay troll pic collectors. This is especially true if the post uses common gay lexicon like “hole” as in “**** my hole” or seeks “masculine” men, or uses the word cock (except in the context of “Don’t send a cock shot.”) There are women on Craigslist. They are easily recognizable by their 2-5 paragraph postings. Most are in their 30's or older.

25. When you become a man in full, know that people will get in your way. People who are attracted to you will somehow manage to step in your path. Gay guys will give you “the look.” Old people will somehow stumble in front of you at the worst time. Don’t get frustrated. Just step aside and go about your business. Know that these are passive aggressive methods to get you to acknowledge their existence.

26. Don’t gay bash. Don’t mentally or physically abuse people because of who they are, or how they present themselves. It’s none of your business to try to intimidate people into conformity.

27. If your gay, admit it to yourself, your parents, your friends and society at large. Be prepared to get harassed. See rule 14. If someone threatens you or assaults you, call the cops. Have them arrested. You have no obligation to self sacrifice because of who you are. As a gay person, you’ll have more social freedom than straight men. Use it to protect yourself. Be prepared to get out of Dodge if your orientation makes your life unbearable. Move to San Francisco, New York, Atlanta, or New Orleans. You’ll find a welcoming community there.

28. Don’t be a poser. Avoid being one of those dudes who puts a surfboard on top of their car, but never surfs, or a dude with a powder coated fixed gear bike and a messenger bag, but was never a messenger. Live the life. Earn your bona fides.

29. Don’t believe the crap about the patriarchy. More women are accepted and attend college. More degrees are awarded to women than men. Women outlive men. More men commit suicide. Men are twice as likely to be victims of violence, including murder. If you consider sexual assaults in prisons, twice as many men are raped as women (society thinks prison rape is funny). The streets are littered with homeless men, sprinkled with a few homeless women. Statically, women are happier than men. The myth that girls are being cheated by are educational system is belied by the fact that schools are bastions of femininity, mostly run by and taught by women. Girls outperform boys in school. It is the boys in school getting ****** over, and prescribed ritalin for being boys. Real wages for men are falling, while real wages for women are rising. Just because someone says something enough times, doesn’t make it true. You have nothing to feel guilty about.

30. Remember, 97% of all advice is worthless. Take what you can use, and trash the rest.

vicioustwist

san francisco

02-15-07

i've done #4 and lost

Can Grown men Adopt?
I have always felt a sense of love. But the thing is. i can't seem to settle with the fact of marrying a women. Its not that im not commited. I mean i like sex, like every other man and im not gay. I just don't wanna be married you know. I always wanted guys though. LIKE ALWAYS!. Is there a chance i can adopt a little girl without getting a wife? Look im going to be plain out honest. I have sponsored countless guys and helped in guyren hospitals and achieved awards. Im not a sicko if you know what im saying. Regardless of that will people be jaded to the fact that they won't let me adopt even if i support her in everyway possible. FOod CLothing Education, spend time of weekands and during the week im home before she is from school. I JUST DON"T WANNA GET ******* MARRIED FOR GOD SAKES.. Maybe its i don't trust people enough but then again why should i?
Whatever the case i wanna adopt would i be able too.
Clean Record
Good job
Caring person
Fun person.
Responsible
Athletic
Love Kids

Of course you can. But you better get started, get on a waiting list. It took us 8 years on a list before they even did our home study, but then got a placement right away. This was with our state's social services. Private adoption is faster but very expensive.
Regardless of what pro-choice folks say, there are many more people who want to adopt a baby, than there are babies.. And if it is a baby you want instead of an older guy, there is nothing wrong with that. Get on the list.
Happy parenting!

My wife decided to breastfeed our son in front of our friends...?
Today my wife and I were hanging out with a few friends of ours (2 girls and one guy) and she needed to breastfeed our son. I said that she should go into the bedroom to do it but she wanted to stay and hang out with everyone. (It only takes her about 10 minutes to feed him) Then her friend asked the other guy if he would mind if she fed him in there. Of course he said he wouldn't mind, what guy would mind a woman popping our her ****? I ******* minded though, and maybe I am just being jealous, but I dont want other men oogling my wife. Do you guys think I have a right to be angry?

Yes, you did the right thing. I'm a woman and certainly I respect my husband all the times. I think you should have a good talk with your wife and tell her why her behaviour is upseting you.

Sorry to say that.. your wife is immature.

Why do black men perfer white women over black women?
Why is it that black famous men like o;j simpson and tiger woods and others have wife wifes and girlfriends,when they can have their pick of beauiful smart black women?Is it because white women will take the s-h-i-t they hand out,and black women won't? I see these white women on the maurey show on t.v with black boyfriends or husbands,that cheat on them and abuse them and they still stay with them.Do they have a death wish these white women?Look what happened to Nicole Brown o.j's wife. Women may be smart but they have no ******* common sense period!

cbmaclean and you foolish are indeed acting foolish with this question. Come on! This is silly. If they are on the Maury show then they already have problems, right? The Maury show is not the place to take a sample of mixed raced relationships, nor is the Jerry Springer the show to take a sample on any relationship or way of liffe!! These shows are for entertainment and the only people they can get come on, or who they even want to come on is people who are poor and were not taught how to behave of live life respectfully. Many of these poor folks(by poor, I don't mean money wise) are simply uneducated, damaged individuals who grew up in seriously dysfunctional homes. You just can not take those who appear on these types of shows as a representitive of any race or sex. The behaviors of these folks is sad, tragic, and not to be made fun of as the pain if very real.

Now, back to this black men prefer white women. I have read many studies regarding this. Studies of black men who try to explain why they prefer while women over black. Though why limit yourself to one type of person is beyound me as there are many many wonderful people of all races. These black men state that black women attempt to walk all over them and take away their manhood. That many black women come on way too strong and end up acting like men. This turns them off so they say. These men state they don't like living in constant strife and this is what they found when they dated or had relationships with black women.

Regardless, this is about racism this question. I do not support racism in any shape of form. If somebody falls in love with a person, their race should be the last thing considered. Love, real love trancends race and color. I suggest you begin taking your own inventory and stop looking for reasons to hate others. Life is about growth, learning to accept others is growth. Hate is the opposite of growth, it sucks a persons life blood and stunts any possible growth of the spirit.

Focus on your own personal and spirtual growth and let the anger over what you perceive as an injustice fade away. Nothing in this life is fair, and we can't change anybody but ourselves. If we focus on what is really important, which in my opinion is finding an ability to accept others even when we don't agree with them, finding what it is which satisfys our own spirits and allowing ourselves to forgive transgressions is the way towards real happiness and peace. When we forgive we forgive for ourselves not the one we are forgiving. When we keep anger and hatred alive we are only hurting ourselves not the one we are angry against nor the one we hate. Our anger and hate has little if any impact on those it is directed towards which leads it to turning inwards, which poisons and consumes our happiness and lives.

I am sure there are those who allow themselves to be treated poorly regardless of the color of their partner who is dishing out the abuse. I know for a fact our batterd women's shelters are full of women of all colors with husbands of all colors, as I have worked in these institutions. I also know that drug and alcohol addiction leads to abuse and those addicted are from all walks of life, without regard to race, color, creed, religion, age, sex, socio-ecconomical situation. We all are affected by abuse in this nation, not just the abused and the abusers.

I also know there are many loving inter-racial marriages in which both partners treat each other with great respect, honor and love. If we come from a dysfunctional background we tend to become dysfunctional. However, it is up to each as an adult to choose to carry on the cycle of dysfunction or to seek out a different path for themselves and their guyren, thus breaking that cycle. It may take a few generations to completely break the cycle but it IS a person choice each adult makes on his/her own. I strongly suggest we, as humans, seek what is kind, caring, non-judging and beautiful in life rather than that which is ugly and hateful.

Bless you for your attempt to bring forth an issue so charged as this. I sincerelly hope you will be able to see the error of this statement you have made, see how racist it truly is, how unfair to judge all by the actions of a few, and work dillegently to learn the truth and become less consummed with anger and hurt over what you perceive as an injustice. I truly wish you happiness and a wonderfull husband who you can honor, respect and find an abiding love with, regardless of his race.

Why do men still date women?
www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest68.htm

"The modern man should be afraid to be in a relationship with a women."

40% of victims of domesic violence are men.

All a women needs to do is call the cops and three squad cars will be there ready to arrest SOMEONE under "mandatory arrest" most often the man.

A man could be bleeding from the head and HE would get arrested, as all a women has to say is it was out of self defense.

A man could be arrested for "bumping" into his g/f/wife, and various others things that if happened to strangers on the street would not result in arrest.

Naming calling, ignoring comments, mean looks, etc are considered domestic violence but only when done by a man to a woman.

Women take advantage of this, often to get guy custody will say the man abused her. The woman has an easy out in relationships; she just has to say she is a victim and she has everyone's sympathy.

ALMOST HALF OF VICTIMS ARE MEN AND YET THERE IS NO VIOLENCE AGAINST MEN ACT.

VAWA is a violation against men's rights.

Women are sick, evil, abusive creatures.

Women can lie to police about being victims with no consequences and the MAN gets arrested WOMEN ARE ******* SICK!

wow.. well im a woman and im not sick.. lol
it really depends on the person i think. i personally would never do anything like that, unless i was actually being physically abused.
its just like saying how there are some real bitchy women out there, just like there are men.
why aren't women afraid of dating men? - women are more likely to be physically abused in a relationship than a man is, men can often be quick-tempered and insensitive toward emotion, etc
its just all statistics. it really depends on the person and whats happening in their relationship. i doubt that all of the women who call the cops and claim theyre being abused do it for no reason, something must have happened because I don't like believing there are that many horrible people in the world.
but still, the same question works vice versa. besides who else r men supposed to be with? other men? lol
its just natural. and some relationships go sour, some people end up dating a horrible person like this, things go wrong, its life. some people r just not as lucky as others. :) x

Is there any non cheating men out there? ANSWER PLEASE!?
i feel hopeless. i feel like their are no men that dont cheat. even the ugly men. im 20 and i feel like im never going to meet a non cheating man. they just all betray you even the ones you least expect that make you feel special and that you are the only one, and when you are most trusting towards them they end up stabbing you in your heart and it hurts so ******* much. i mean is there any good looking men out there that dont cheat on their wives or girlfriends? it makes me sick to my stomach i can not trust men at all because of the worry that makes me sick of being hurt. how do i get over this feeling? and how can i trust, men this world is full of cheaters men and women.. women that are on thr prowl,predators who thrive on men who are taken.it disgusts me and if thats the way its going to be it looks like i will be single for my godforsaken life. relationships scare me and this is why. and men or women its like they dont know whats they got is great until its gone. going for something that they think is better and more exciting. relationships go through stages ;ups and downs and why cant people just stick through thick and thin with you instead of running off with others

Stay strong! I realize that sometimes it feels hopeless and the feeling you get after being cheated on is awful. I know, been there too. But there is always hope. Believe it or not, there are some decent guys out there, me being one of them. I started to think the same things you're thinking but found someone worth my time and efforts and I haven't regretted it.

Realize your own self worth and be conscious of the people you're letting into your life. Do what you know is right and never allow anyone to make you feel insignificant. Remember that Karma has a way of exacting it's retribution to those who deserve it, so those that have crossed you will get theirs in time. As for you, they aren't worth your time, your tears, or even your anger.

******* a married man/woman.....do you ever think about your lover's husband/wife?
An ex cheated on me. We broke up. He got married soon after for dumb reasons. Then recently he was trying to get with me and saying all the right things. His wife never thought about my feelings in this whole thing. (marrying him less than a month after we broke up. I'm not even sure that they waited till we were broken up to date.) Hooking up with him seemed comfortable and reassuring. I would never date him again though. I don't even really like him anymore. It was suppose to make me feel better about myself. He's the one wanting me back. Still....for some reason, I feel so guilty. She doesn't know. I feel horrible about it but I don't think that I should. To me it seems more like she is the "other woman". They have known each other a few months. We dated for 5 yrs. Should I tell her about it or not? Should I be feeling guilty?

The simple answer, yes.

You should tell her.
Eventually, what happens in the dark comes into the light and she'll find out, anyway. If you tell her, you give her the information she deserves, and you put what ever grudges you hold from him cheating on you in the past. It's being accountable that makes the guilt go away, and it's what makes you a better person.

You should be feeling guilty:
Regaurdless of the situation, cheating is never justified. I just got out of a situation like that, and I had to own up to what I did, and I'm glad that I did, because I'll never make that mistake again, and by owning up, I didn't have to live with the guilt anymore. And I know that when I was in a similar situation, the guilt weighed down on me all of the time, because I did something wrong and I knew it.

Ultimately, the decision is up to you, but if you tell her, odds are, you'll be glad in the long run.